03 June 2008 @ 11:35 am
Mirage Quickie #11  
Since quite a number of fans have PMed me about this issue, I figured it'd be helpful if I just post it here for others who might be curious about the depiction of Minako's rape in the anime. I've been asked if there's any difference in the anime and novels for that scene in episode 11, Naoe's behavior in particular.

The answer is yes. Anime!Naoe was looking all doom and gloom at Minako, and said (according to the fansub by LadyN), "I love him." Novels!Naoe was smiling at Minako, his eyes devoid of any strand of sanity, and said, "I love you." Again, I've no idea why they changed Naoe's manner in the anime, but nevermind.

Unlike other fans, I do not look so kindly on Naoe's actions. And if Minako sincerely forgave Naoe the very next morning, I'm sorry to say that I find it a tasteless cliché. Even if Minako had the capacity to forgive such an atrocity, it takes time and at the rate things were going 30 years ago, I don't think she had even begin to come to terms with the trauma of the rape, her shock at Naoe's behavior (she was under the impression he was a gentleman all this while), the fear of being held captive by the enemy as a bait to lure Kagetora, personally witnessing Kagetora's death (he could not use his powers because of Ranmaru's kyuuryoku kekkai hence shielded Naoe and Minako against the full onslaught of attacks with his own body) before her soul was expelled from her body.

I've seen essays analyzing the reasons for Kagetora's decision to entrust Minako to Naoe, all of which conveniently ignore Naoe's mindset for committing something so despicable. So the overall impression that I get from this is some kind of sick justification for Naoe's rape of Minako or assignment of blame to Kagetora, as though Kagetora had put Naoe in a position where he could not help but rape Minako. Rape is rape. No amount of mind games or psychological traps or whatever from Kagetora is cause for Naoe to rape Minako.

As for Kagetora's decision, I don't believe he deliberately sent Minako away as a sacrificial lamb to test Naoe's feelings for him (this would actually contradict with his innate character of putting the safety of others above himself). However, he did, for perhaps 0.01 millisecond, feel a little satisfied that Naoe ultimately committed a sin out of jealousy, ie. proof that he indeed and still had such strong hold over Naoe. But that fleeting moment of satisfaction turned into a deep-seated guilt whereby, even after 400 years, Kagetora feels himself to be so filthy an existence that he is undeserving of even a chance to apologize to Minako. I'd say Naoe and Kagetora are even now, after all, Naoe himself is a little smug that Kagetora went mad without him.

So if Minako shouldn't have been entrusted to Naoe, who else could Kagetora have chosen? Note that at that time, the rest of the Yashashuu were strongly opposed to having Minako under their care. Choosing Nagahide was obviously out of the question. While Minako won't risk getting raped or killed with Haruie or Irobe, it's highly likely that they would prioritize the war with Nobunaga or even Kagetora's life over her safety should the situation take a turn for the worse. So it all comes down to Naoe in the end, who was supposed to be Kagetora's most loyal and obedient retainer.

Honestly, I love the character of Naoe. If I didn't, I wouldn't be interested in this relationship in the first place no matter how much I love Kagetora. While I don't find the rape itself forgivable, my sympathy for him comes from his suffering after the incident and his realization that he had done something irreversible despite the instances where he still shoots himself in the foot.
 
 
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[identity profile] erah-haruna205.livejournal.com on June 3rd, 2008 07:29 am (UTC)
i think i did post at the community about 'is naoe a sympathetic character and can he be forgiven?" long ago and if im not mistaken, 99% of us claim NO he can't be forgiven. like you said above, rape is rape. but i do agree he is a sympathetic character. sigh, lady_nara-san even made a thesis about his crime. but despite what he did, i still love naoe too. and minako....... well, it kinda agravates me that we hardly know her P.O.V during the after-rape. theres a number of theories that she forgive him just so naoe won't hurt her again and/or she doesn't have anyone to depend other than naoe against nobunaga.

"Novels!Naoe was smiling at Minako, his eyes devoid of any strand of sanity, and said, "I love you."

btw, i didn't know anime!naoe said "i love him". i thought he said "i love you". (if im not mistaken he said "aisheteh...minako...")

and if minako wasn't screaming after naoe coner her to the wall, i wouldn't have known he raped her (few years ago when i first watch the anime) few minutes later we saw naoe holding onto kagetora's body near the fireplace and minako was trying to sit up. her clothes were barely ripped! no obvious trace she's been forced.

why can't the anime producer make another mob anime!!?? its unfair that some animes can lasts with 50 to 90 episodes and has good quality. sigh....
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[identity profile] quaint-twilight.livejournal.com on June 3rd, 2008 11:12 am (UTC)
I can't remember what Naoe said in Japanese (actually I can't even remember what was in the sub since I haven't watched the anime for so long) but apparently in the fansub it's 'I love him'. But thanks for pointing that out, I'll edit my post to make it a bit more specific.
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[identity profile] erah-haruna205.livejournal.com on June 4th, 2008 02:39 am (UTC)
i watched back the anime and naoe said ".....minako.... aishiteru...." and my subtitle said "i love you minako" although with my little knowledge of japanese, i think naoe said he loves kagetora before saying i love you to minako. sigh, this is quite confusing. but then again the dvd i own is from the hong kong subtitle which is famous for its literal and quite often poor translation.

and i thought of something yesterday. maybe the image of minako was a little bias? it happened 30 years ago and only naoe was there when minako was forced out of her body and the rape. naoe might have unconsciously 'edit' his memories of how minako reacted the next morning? no girl would even be able to think rationally after something that traumatizing. but anyway, like you said, we could only speculate until sensei made a prequel about her.
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